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ammunition for AS VAL / VSS

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Now that the nerf has applied to the ammunition of these two weapons, I am left with a doubt with respect to the most basic ammunition for this weapon which is the SP-5, I believe that they exaggerated with capping the maximum purchase of this to 180 bullets, all the weapons with the exception of 3 have unlimited the most basic ammunition of these the others have a capacity between 300 and 400, it is as if they want to send these two weapons to oblivion, it does not seem to them exaggerated? at least that the SP-5 could be made in the workbench would not be so problematic.

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Blu3p4nd4

The problem with ammo for these weapons is not the availability.. in fact, they are still way too common.

An even bigger problem is that these bullets are still far too powerful. Wearing class 5 and below and you die instantly (literally instantly) to anything but sp-5 which will kill you in about 2 seconds instead.

Armor is rendered worthless when the ammunition has so much penetration and damage.  Either drop the flesh damage by a huge amount or make it so that the ammo cannot be crafted nor bought, only found in raid.

With the current state of these guns and their bullets there is no reason to run any other weapon in the game, you are quite simply just putting yourself at a disadvantage by doing so.

From the perspective of realism the gun should be really hard to come by. IRL they are both expensive and rarely deployed, so why is it that everyone and their mothers have access to this piece of kit?

 

Dear BSG, please make this weapon a rare gem to find in a raid and the all but the sp-5 find in raid only. Limit the rounds (sp-5) purchasable from vendor to a few mags per reset. Make armor relevant, make other guns relevant.

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Thormato

Isnt the Kill time something like 0.7s on the As Val or is it Sp-6 that has this killtime?

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Blu3p4nd4

I believe time to kill is .22 for sp-6 and up...

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cpltrout

maybe they should give it realistic stats instead of the insane made up poo it does now

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HachiR0ku
4 hours ago, cpltrout said:

maybe they should give it realistic stats instead of the insane made up poo it does now

it was designed to pen armour while remaining sub sonic. there is a reason 9x39 was "restricted" for being "unethical" and too "overpowered".
 

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cpltrout

yeah soft armor 

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cpltrout

in fact the p 90 (5.7x28) and mp 7 (4.6x30) ap ammo is only  for soft armor they really are not going to be effective on hard armor

also the 9x19 ap come to think of it 

I think the real problem here is the devs hear the words armor piercing and think it means all armor all of these sub calibers (or pdw calibers if you want to go down that fucked up rabbit hole) can pen hard armor when thats just not the case.

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Caster89Actual
10 hours ago, cpltrout said:

yeah soft armor 

9x39 has ammo that can go through plates.

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cpltrout

lol no it doesn't that's why they stopped using it 

i mean maybe some shity poly plates but no plates that any military uses

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