Solo Queue needed

[Danron]

Hello,

 

I would like to keep it very short.

 

There is no way that you can justify that 1v5  or 1v4 or 1v3 or 1v2 is a fair gameplay!

 

This game has not any matchmaking that would guarantee to be a in a group that is beeing formed ingame, if you are one of the majority of the playerbase your stuck to be a target parctice for some 5 guys runing around the map as if they are rambo's. No person with common sense would say that 1v multiple people is a fair game mechanic. If this is truely a team based game, where is the ingame matchmaking that makes it possible to find a group ? Why are people forced to go and search outside the game  for people to play with, so they can be on the same playing field as the groups that dominate and they aren't the mayority of the playerbase but a minority that ruins the gameplay. It's not fun like this, there should be a solo queue where you only play as solo but it should be an option. People that think they can win 1v5 or people that just don't have nothing else to do and are "good" because of the sheer ammount of gameplay or just some gifted people or people that think they are in a military and training in a military simulator software.... or people that think this is a hardcore game (this isn't a hardcore game in any way or form or shape if you ever played in a team of 5, you can understand what i mean, i assume, fair gameplay can be hardcore also and an unfair gameplay doesn't make something hardcore but rather ruins it),  should be able to join their "dream  fair gameplay, i'm a target practice that can maybe shoot" classic game and enjoy it.  I think that it doesn't make sense why the developers don't add a simple solo queue to the game, is it incompetence or just hard to do ? This system right now is just not fair and fun and solo queue is urgently needed.

Edited June 10, 2020 by Danron

[JeffreyLF]

It's intentional, that's how it is in real life

[Stouffy]

it make sense solo and squad queue but for some reason it is supposed to be a "squad game" (Yeah Dev are just lazy) so no solo queue  

[Danron]

Calling the game hardcore pvp and most likely also playing it as intend (teaming up and going 5v1)  is i assume how hardcore players play, and justify the unfair gameplay as hardcore and tell people that it's a hardcore game and that's why they lost to a team of 5 but the hardcore players are going in as 5 man squad ....

Edited June 11, 2020 by Danron

[JeffreyLF]

4 minutes ago, Danron said:

Calling the game hardcore pvp and most likely also playing it as intend (teaming up and going 5v1)  is i assume how hardcore players play, and justify the unfair gameplay as hardcore and tell people that it's a hardcore game and that's why they lost to a team of 5 but the hardcore players are going in as 5 man squad ....

This game is supposed to be as close to real life as possible, you're telling me that in real life it's unrealistic that a group vs a single person is unrealistic?

[Kral]

Squads actually make it easier in a way, that's a big chunk of the players on a server clustered together and easy to track. If every raid was full of solos you'd be here complaining about always getting third partied and demanding fewer players or PVE servers.

[Danron]

28 minutes ago, JeffreyLF said:

This game is supposed to be as close to real life as possible, you're telling me that in real life it's unrealistic that a group vs a single person is unrealistic?

I'm telling in short, if you play in a group of 5, you are not experiencing this game in now way in hardcore mode or anything close to it !

This game isn't in no way close to real life interactions, who would do the things they do in the game if they know they can die of it easly, and i didn't buy a real life simulator and it's beeing advertised as a game not as a simulator!

[JeffreyLF]

1 minute ago, Danron said:

I'm telling in short, if you play in a group of 5, you are not experiencing this game in now way in hardcore mode or anything close to it !

This game isn't in no way close to real life interactions, who would do the things they do in the game if they know they can die of it easly, and i didn't buy a real life simulator and it's beeing advertised as a game not as a simulator!

This game is not for casuals, at all, if you think that, you should stop playing

[Danron]

Just now, JeffreyLF said:

This game is not for casuals, at all, if you think that, you should stop playing

This game is not advertised as a non casual or only competitive or people that only play the game all day long. Alot of people (normal people) don't play 24/24 games but have most likely a live.

This game is advertised as a game for everyone! If what you are saying is true, than it should be advertised with that in mind, that a casual can't play the game or should we say normal person can't play the game. Solo queue is needed and i think without it the game will slow down till only the profesional tarkov players are left and for next title of the developers pesonally i'm not gona spend a dime and also didn't buy eod just because of no solo queue to give you and idea.

[JeffreyLF]

Just now, Danron said:

This game is not advertised as a non casual or only competitive or people that only play the game all day long. Alot of people (normal people) don't play 24/24 games but have most likely a live.

This game is advertised as a game for everyone! If what you are saying is true, than it should be advertised with that in mind, that a casual can't play the game or should we say normal person can't play the game. Solo queue is needed and i think without it the game will slow down till only the profesional tarkov players are left and for next title of the developers pesonally i'm not gona spend a dime and also didn't buy eod just because of no solo queue to give you and idea.

 

[Kral]

2 minutes ago, Danron said:

This game is not advertised as a non casual

"Escape from Tarkov is a hardcore and realistic online first-person action RPG/Simulator with MMO features and a story-driven walkthrough."

That's the first line of the about section on the homepage.

[Danron]

A game isn't hardcore when the gamemechanic is unfair. A game with fair gamemechanic should be hardcore with different challenges.
Solo queue option wouldn't hurt anything and give an option for fair gameplay, if you think going 1v5 is hardcore for you, you may go and most likely be a good target practice on the classic queue or we can say "hardcore queue".
I assume the developers don't want to accept the succes it would bring if they added solo queue, but calling a unfair gamemechanic as hardcore isn't very logical i think.

[LenzOA]

that would mean it forces legit people into teams since people with cheats are more likely to play solo i guess. and also it would split the small playerbase even more causing more half empty servers and more matching time.

[Man11withaplan]

I mean, this isn't COD or CS GO. Not sure what you where expecting.

[Danron]

19 hours ago, Man11withaplan said:

I mean, this isn't COD or CS GO. Not sure what you where expecting.

That's the point, there is alot more on stake if you take out a good kit. Dieng just to an unfair situation where you need to kill 5 people that are teaming up, isn't fair and just ruins the game experience. Solo queue wouldn't hurt but improve the game for alot of people that just die because they encounter an unfair situation. Solo queue would give a chance to random meetings and also a fair chance of odds. I would rather fight a solo as solo and than another 3 party solo. But fighting a team of 2 or more and than another possible team of the same size, isn't fair is just unfair gamemechanic. If you like it, it should stay as it is but give an addition for solo queue and i bet also that will be full and the groups would be empty.

Edited June 11, 2020 by Danron

[Stouffy]

don't try to argue with them this is your basic fanboy base you are against...the only hardcore element is the full loot this is why this is called "hardcore" nothing to do with the queue system.

This game is a loot based gated game there is little skill involved unless fighting against similar armor/weapon tier since people are starting to get full geared you will see more and more squad cause those people are not confident enought to fight 1vs1 or just simply wanna play with friend.

The only advice i can give you is choose your battle (don't engage dude with superior tier armor unless you are sur to kill it)  and when hearing multiple footsteps hide in a bush and play dead.

remenber this is a game no matter how unfair it is, if you stop having fun just switch to another one and wait for this game to be fun again.

 

Edited June 14, 2020 by Stouffy

[JeffreyLF]

11 hours ago, Stouffy said:

don't try to argue with them this is your basic fanboy base you are against...the only hardcore element is the full loot this is why this is called "hardcore" nothing to do with the queue system.

This game is a loot based gated game there is little skill involved unless fighting against similar armor/weapon tier since people are starting to get full geared you will see more and more squad cause those people are not confident enought to fight 1vs1 or just simply wanna play with friend.

The only advice i can give you is choose your battle (don't engage dude with superior tier armor unless you are sur to kill it)  and when hearing multiple footsteps hide in a bush and play dead.

remenber this is a game no matter how unfair it is, if you stop having fun just switch to another one and wait for this game to be fun again.

 

Nikita said this game isn't supposed to be fair, therefore solo ques against teams will likely always be a thing

[LasseNielsen]

First thing, this game has nothing with to do with realism.

There are so many weird issues with this game, that is in it becourse it's a game.

Don't use realism as a reason something is the way it is... If you do, i'll be happy to shoot you with a 9mm in the chest. As that would have no effect on you in game, other then maybe you start bleeding.

Or maybe shoot your arm off with a .45 and see if a few ibuprofen takes the pain as you try to attach your arm back on.


If you are afraid that changes to the game will kill off the playerbase.

Please remember that most players playing Tarkov, are casual players. If they choose to leave it for another game. Then all the hardcore players can just play against each other. Sounds exactly like what this game needs...

Make a hardcore and casual locked server. there problem solved. Why didn't anybody think of this before.

[JeffreyLF]

3 hours ago, LasseNielsen said:

First thing, this game has nothing with to do with realism.

There are so many weird issues with this game, that is in it becourse it's a game.

Don't use realism as a reason something is the way it is... If you do, i'll be happy to shoot you with a 9mm in the chest. As that would have no effect on you in game, other then maybe you start bleeding.

Or maybe shoot your arm off with a .45 and see if a few ibuprofen takes the pain as you try to attach your arm back on.


If you are afraid that changes to the game will kill off the playerbase.

Please remember that most players playing Tarkov, are casual players. If they choose to leave it for another game. Then all the hardcore players can just play against each other. Sounds exactly like what this game needs...

Make a hardcore and casual locked server. there problem solved. Why didn't anybody think of this before.

Nikita doesn't want it to be a casual game, all you people saying it should be a casual game are not ever going to get your way, go play something else

[sutex]

Match making on Player level?

Read my thread, a solution

 

[htanmsa]

On 6/11/2020 at 1:05 AM, Danron said:

Hello,

 

I would like to keep it very short.

 

There is no way that you can justify that 1v5  or 1v4 or 1v3 or 1v2 is a fair gameplay!

 

This game has not any matchmaking that would guarantee to be a in a group that is beeing formed ingame, if you are one of the majority of the playerbase your stuck to be a target parctice for some 5 guys runing around the map as if they are rambo's. No person with common sense would say that 1v multiple people is a fair game mechanic. If this is truely a team based game, where is the ingame matchmaking that makes it possible to find a group ? Why are people forced to go and search outside the game  for people to play with, so they can be on the same playing field as the groups that dominate and they aren't the mayority of the playerbase but a minority that ruins the gameplay. It's not fun like this, there should be a solo queue where you only play as solo but it should be an option. People that think they can win 1v5 or people that just don't have nothing else to do and are "good" because of the sheer ammount of gameplay or just some gifted people or people that think they are in a military and training in a military simulator software.... or people that think this is a hardcore game (this isn't a hardcore game in any way or form or shape if you ever played in a team of 5, you can understand what i mean, i assume, fair gameplay can be hardcore also and an unfair gameplay doesn't make something hardcore but rather ruins it),  should be able to join their "dream  fair gameplay, i'm a target practice that can maybe shoot" classic game and enjoy it.  I think that it doesn't make sense why the developers don't add a simple solo queue to the game, is it incompetence or just hard to do ? This system right now is just not fair and fun and solo queue is urgently needed.

Play labs solo que don’t complain

Edited June 15, 2020 by htanmsa

[GeneralBrus]

On 6/11/2020 at 4:31 AM, Kral said:

"Escape from Tarkov is a hardcore and realistic online first-person action RPG/Simulator with MMO features and a story-driven walkthrough."

That's the first line of the about section on the homepage.

Hardcore has lost its meaning long time ago.

[Kral]

12 minutes ago, GeneralBrus said:

Hardcore has lost its meaning long time ago.

So the devs should just give up and bow to demands to make it even more casual?

The game is half complete, we're missing all kinds of features that will make it more punishing, there's no reason to cave in now and make it super easy for all of the delicate flowers out there.

[LasseNielsen]

7 hours ago, JeffreyLF said:

Nikita doesn't want it to be a casual game, all you people saying it should be a casual game are not ever going to get your way, go play something else

Okay listen here.

You need to understand that a casual game isn't saying it should be easy.

It just means that you don't need to put 4-5 hours of your life into it each day to stay on a even playing field.

When Nikita says he doesn't want it to be easy and he want it to be hardcore. He isn't talking about PvP, he is talking about the loot and the gear in the game.

Like the weight system. If you go in superchad you can't carry much gear from other players. He wants you to make a decision on what you want to do. He wants you to make tough decisions.

Running around in a gen4 assault, altyn and a surpressed m4 using m995 isn't Hardcore, that is an easy button. He wants you to have to use shitty guns, what ever you can find of ammo. He wants you to struggle getting good gear.

The game favors people that can put endless hours into it.

The massive inbalance between players have been insane this wipe. As those who have the time and skill to farm raiders and bosses. Leave people who can't in the dust.

It's not the players fault, it's the game. And they are finding out the loop holes, and trying to shut it down. Aka spawning in killa with worse armour and such.

If you are grinding the game, and farming raiders and bosses, you are the current problem for BSG. Casual players are actually playing the game, the way Nikita intended. Struggling to get by and having the current content of quests. Taking months to complete.

Doing your quests in a week or two. Then you are not the main audience of this game.

[Sanoo]

99.9% chance this won't ever get implemented. Nikita has stated before that he doesn't want the game to cater to everyone's needs.
IMO, the beauty of this game is not knowing what you're going to find in a raid. Is it another solo player, a duo, or a group of 5? You never know, every raid is different in that respect. Adding solo / duo / squad matchmaking would completely and utterly destroy that.

It's not a battle royale, it shouldn't try to be one either.

6 minutes ago, LasseNielsen said:

If you are grinding the game, and farming raiders and bosses, you are the current problem for BSG. Casual players are actually playing the game, the way Nikita intended. Struggling to get by and having the current content of quests. Taking months to complete.

Doing your quests in a week or two. Then you are not the main audience of this game.

Now with all due respect, you're saying that the people that play the game the most, are not the main audience of this game? I don't see the logic in that.
The players are not at fault. The game allows the gear to be obtained that quickly, you can't put that blame on people for using said methods to get an advantage. Almost everyone would farm gear the same way if they could, but there's a massive and obvious skill gap, punishing a sizable portion of the playerbase for being ''good'' would actually be unfair IMO.