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Hello Escapers,

This thread is for system upgrade suggestions to maintain and get better performance. We will talk about which components in your system should get an upgrade and which are not necessary. Please post on the given format. 

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  • MOTHERBOARD :
  • CPU
  • GPU
  • RAM :
  • SSD (1/0) : (If yes please write down M2. , SATA, M2 NVME)
  • POWERSUPPLY
  • AVERAGE FPS : 
  • What do you want to have with your system : (Write simple please for eg: More fps 80+.)

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AllstarCRM

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Monarchi

MOTHERBOARD :

CPU : ryzen 1700x

GPU : rtx2070

RAM :16 gb

SSD (1/0) : (If yes please write down M2. , SATA, M2 NVME)intel 1 tb 660p vvme

POWERSUPPLY : 750

AVERAGE FPS : 40

100 fps and less more shuutering

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33 minutes ago, Monarchi said:

MOTHERBOARD :

CPU : ryzen 1700x

GPU : rtx2070

RAM :16 gb

SSD (1/0) : (If yes please write down M2. , SATA, M2 NVME)intel 1 tb 660p vvme

POWERSUPPLY : 750

AVERAGE FPS : 40

100 fps and less more shuutering

 

Hello Monarchi,

Tarkov is very cpu heavy game you need better single core performance than multi core in tarkov. You didn't write down your motherboard and ram specs but i can see its 16gb already. You really should upgrade your cpu to a newer one with better single core performance than others. Keep in mind that if your rams supports XMP use it, just activate XMP on your bios settings it will allow rams to work on desired Mhz. 

So in my opinion AM5 sockets and AM4 zen3 processors are going to be launched by the end of the year. Upgrading motherboard + cpu will be devastating upgrade for your system. However if you want a budget friendly upgrade wait for launch and just upgrade to Ryzen3xxx series they will become even cheaper. Just keep in mind you need better single core performance. For eg Ryzen 5 3600XT will be a great upgrade.

 

Best regards,

AllstarCRM

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serkanay

MOTHERBOARD : MSI B450M PRO-VDH PLUS AMD Ryzen 3466 Mhz DDR4 AM4 Soket mATX

CPU :  AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 16MB Cache Soket AM4

GPU : MSI AMD Radeon RX 5700 Mech OC 8GB 256Bit GDDR6 DX(12) PCI-E 4.0

RAM : Kingston HyperX Fury 16GB (8x2) 3200MHz DDR4 Ram HX432C16FB3/8 

SSD (1/0) : (If yes please write down M2. , SATA, M2 NVME)  SANDISK 120GB SSD

POWERSUPPLY : Gamepower GM-700 APFC 700W 85+

AVERAGE FPS : 55.6

What do you want to have with your system : More fps 70+ 

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6 hours ago, serkanay said:

MOTHERBOARD : MSI B450M PRO-VDH PLUS AMD Ryzen 3466 Mhz DDR4 AM4 Soket mATX

CPU :  AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 16MB Cache Soket AM4

GPU : MSI AMD Radeon RX 5700 Mech OC 8GB 256Bit GDDR6 DX(12) PCI-E 4.0

RAM : Kingston HyperX Fury 16GB (8x2) 3200MHz DDR4 Ram HX432C16FB3/8 

SSD (1/0) : (If yes please write down M2. , SATA, M2 NVME)  SANDISK 120GB SSD

POWERSUPPLY : Gamepower GM-700 APFC 700W 85+

AVERAGE FPS : 55.6

What do you want to have with your system : More fps 70+ 

Hello serkanay,

 

First of all you can achive 65-70 fps outside scope with your system. Try to find more stable drivers that fits to your system and more stable BIOS version to keep the ropes tight. However as topic says we will be discussing about upgrades. You didn't mentioned your SSD specs i assume that disk is SATA, you should think of buying an M.2 SSD which will make the game even smoother because your motherboard supports Turbo M.2. 

Secondly, you can think about upgrading your cpu in the fact that its getting old and better ones are coming out. As mentioned above post single core performance is more important than multicore performance in tarkov. I will give you an example of great single performance budget cpu which is Ryzen 5 3600XT but if you want to you can go for Ryzen 7 series.

 

Just to remind don't forget to allow XMP on msi A-XMP at your BIOS.

 

Best regards,

AllstarCRM

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serkanay

Thanx for all informations and suggestions.

Best wishes 🙋‍♂️

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hat_kroenchen

MOTHERBOARD : Asus B350 plus
CPU :  Ryzen 7 1700x
GPU : 2080 super
RAM : 16GB DDR4 @ 3000mhu
SSD (1/1) : SSD Sata Crucial MX500 1TB
POWERSUPPLY : 650w Gold
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AVERAGE FPS : tested on customs as scav about 12 and sunny weather/ fresh pc restart
56 on ultra low settings and 48 on ultra hight 

And over 100 fps on offline raids with scavs

CPU Usage at 36% and GPU at 48%

What do you want to have with your system : 
atleast more than my friends on his 7 year old rig with i5-4570 and gtx 970

or minimum stable 60 would be nice

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Hello @hat_kroenchen,

 

First of all, you can achieve stable 60 with some tweaks on your cpu. Try to overclock it to a very stable state with ryzen master but first check some overclocking guides directly giving information about ryzen master.

Secondly, Find the most stable BIOS version for your system. Upgrading to latest version when you have a 1xxx cpu may cause issues.

Thirdly, as the topic says the main discussion here is upgrades. If you want to feed the 2080 super you need a decent cpu and you need a cpu which has great single-core scores because of tarkovs stability and fps very dependent on single-core performance. So you have four options here;

        1. Wait for AM5 series upgrade your cpu with your motherboard.

        2. Going for AM4 series: On here you can either buy Ryzen 5 3600XT or Ryzen 7 3800XT

        3. Wait for ZEN3 launch, upgrade your cpu to a zen3 with your motherboard because your motherboard                  will NOT support ZEN3.

        4. Completely switch to intel which i do not recommend.

At the end of all, your budget your decision for cpu and motherboard upgrades however my suggestion is to stick with AMD and upgrade to AM4 ZEN2 series CPUs for the reason of they will get cheaper when ZEN3 launchs or in BlackFriday. In addition, you should be thinking about buying an M.2 SSD. 

 

 

 

All the best,

AllstarCRM

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hat_kroenchen

Hey, thank you for your guide.
My CPU is already overlocked and with new Bios but maybe i can get some more out of it.
How many more fps could i expect to switch to a 3600xt and 3800xt?


Are there any benefits beside faster loading times with a M.2 SSD?

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17 minutes ago, hat_kroenchen said:

Hey, thank you for your guide.
My CPU is already overlocked and with new Bios but maybe i can get some more out of it.
How many more fps could i expect to switch to a 3600xt and 3800xt?


Are there any benefits beside faster loading times with a M.2 SSD?

The new ryzen 5000 series will have quite the single core upgrade, which should help in gaming performance. However if you do not feel like buying a new motherboard, or if you are on a budget the 3600xt should be quite good.

The main difference between the 3600xt and 3800xt is that the 3800xt has 2 more cores, and will be better for multi-core performance, I'm not sure how big the difference in gaming would be but I doubt it's that high.

The 3800XT does not come with a cooler, the 3600XT does

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johnsontvc

I think this is an informative post and it is very beneficial and knowledgeable. Therefore, I would like to thank you for the endeavors that you have made it 😉
 

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Schmirgus

Anyone tried a 5000 series Ryzen CPU yet?

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rastommy77

Hi there! This thread is super useful, thank very much for the support. 

I am planning on upgrading my PC, but I am not very up to date with todays market to be able to know which direction to go.

I am happy for any suggestions, I have a spare £500 to put towards upgrade. 

My goal is to increase FPS (obviously) as much as I possibly can by the available budget, but possibly at least to 60fps+

Also looking for any suggestions in regards of updating software, tweaking the available hardware etc.

See my current in-game settings below in a screenshot, I get an average 40fps with that setup.

CPU 40% GPU 45% Ram 85% VRAM 97% usage.

Thank you again, here is my current spec and performance.

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Motherboard Name    Asus Prime B450M-A  (2 PCI-E x1, 1 PCI-E x16, 1 M.2, 4 DDR4 DIMM, Audio, Video, Gigabit LAN)

Motherboard Chipset    AMD B450, AMD Taishan, AMD K17 IMC

BIOS Type    AMI (06/08/2018)

CPU Type    HexaCore AMD Ryzen 5 2600, 3642 MHz (36.5 x 100)

System Memory    16313 MB

DIMM2: Corsair CMK8GX4M1D3000C16    8 GB DDR4-3000 DDR4 SDRAM  (24-20-20-38 @ 1500 MHz)  (23-20-20-38 @ 1500 MHz)  (22-20-20-38 @ 1500 MHz)  (21-20-20-38 @ 1500 MHz)  (20-20-20-38 @ 1500 MHz)  (19-20-20-38 @ 1500 MHz)  (18-20-20-38 @ 1500 MHz)  (17-20-20-38 @ 1500 MHz)  (16-20-20-38 @ 1500 MHz)  (15-19-19-36 @ 1405 MHz)  (14-18-18-34 @ 1311 MHz)  (13-17-17-31 @ 1218 MHz)  (12-15-15-29 @ 1124 MHz)  (11-14-14-27 @ 1030 MHz)  (10-13-13-24 @ 937 MHz)  (9-12-12-22 @ 843 MHz)  (8-10-10-19 @ 749 MHz)  (7-9-9-17 @ 655 MHz)

DIMM4: Corsair CMK8GX4M1D3000C16    8 GB DDR4-3000 DDR4 SDRAM  (24-20-20-38 @ 1500 MHz)  (23-20-20-38 @ 1500 MHz)  (22-20-20-38 @ 1500 MHz)  (21-20-20-38 @ 1500 MHz)  (20-20-20-38 @ 1500 MHz)  (19-20-20-38 @ 1500 MHz)  (18-20-20-38 @ 1500 MHz)  (17-20-20-38 @ 1500 MHz)  (16-20-20-38 @ 1500 MHz)  (15-19-19-36 @ 1405 MHz)  (14-18-18-34 @ 1311 MHz)  (13-17-17-31 @ 1218 MHz)  (12-15-15-29 @ 1124 MHz)  (11-14-14-27 @ 1030 MHz)  (10-13-13-24 @ 937 MHz)  (9-12-12-22 @ 843 MHz)  (8-10-10-19 @ 749 MHz)  (7-9-9-17 @ 655 MHz)

Video Adapter    GeForce GTX 1080  (8 GB)

Disk Drive    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 500GB  (500 GB, SATA-III)

PSU Corsair VS650

Monitor    Asus VG248 (DisplayPort)  [24" TN LCD]  (J6LMQS062495)

OS Name    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro
OS Version    10.0.19041.630

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12 hours ago, rastommy77 said:

Hi there! This thread is super useful, thank very much for the support. 

❤️

 

First of all, lets try Custom resolution and DSR settings. Even though your monitor does not support 2560x1440 res, just create one from nvidia control panel to do that: (CUSTOM RES)

  • You need to disable every DSR multiplier under 3D settings.
  • After that you can create a custom res from nvidia control panel as seen below.
  • Select 2560x1440 in-game settings you can find it at the bottom of the list.

 

tarkov.thumb.jpg.c8a4abe6adad6845746f00a721f2268d.jpg

 

Please let me know about the performance after this. Another thing is using DSR via 3D settings, try to use x1.78 DSR with %21 DSR smoothness and test the performance.

 

Lets get to the upgrades. Your CPU has some weak benchs over B450 chipsets. If you want to stay with your GPU at the moment, you can go for CPU upgrade to 5000 series RYZEN. ASUS has claimed that they will be upgrading their B450 BIOS often to make it work stable with 5000. Another options is you can go for CPU+MB upgrade to X470 chipset +  Ryzen 5 3600XT or Ryzen 7 3800XT. you can even think for RYZEN 9 3900X without motherboard upgrade.

 

Here comes the thing if you don't want to wait for upgrade and just spend that 500£. You can go for GPU upgrade to 3070 on UK.

Don't forget the fact that you system will bottleneck the 3070 but you can upgrade later to 5000 series.

RYZEN has declared a new era with 5000 series they made the L3 CACHE accessible from every unit in cpu. So faster transfer means faster CPU.

 

For any further questions don't hesitate to ask  ❤️

 

Kind regards,

AllstarCRM

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8 hours ago, AllstarCRM said:

❤️

 

First of all, lets try Custom resolution and DSR settings. Even though your monitor does not support 2560x1440 res, just create one from nvidia control panel to do that: (CUSTOM RES)

  • You need to disable every DSR multiplier under 3D settings.
  • After that you can create a custom res from nvidia control panel as seen below.
  • Select 2560x1440 in-game settings you can find it at the bottom of the list.

 

tarkov.thumb.jpg.c8a4abe6adad6845746f00a721f2268d.jpg

 

Please let me know about the performance after this. Another thing is using DSR via 3D settings, try to use x1.78 DSR with %21 DSR smoothness and test the performance.

 

Lets get to the upgrades. Your CPU has some weak benchs over B450 chipsets. If you want to stay with your GPU at the moment, you can go for CPU upgrade to 5000 series RYZEN. ASUS has claimed that they will be upgrading their B450 BIOS often to make it work stable with 5000. Another options is you can go for CPU+MB upgrade to X470 chipset +  Ryzen 5 3600XT or Ryzen 7 3800XT. you can even think for RYZEN 9 3900X without motherboard upgrade.

 

Here comes the thing if you don't want to wait for upgrade and just spend that 500£. You can go for GPU upgrade to 3070 on UK.

Don't forget the fact that you system will bottleneck the 3070 but you can upgrade later to 5000 series.

RYZEN has declared a new era with 5000 series they made the L3 CACHE accessible from every unit in cpu. So faster transfer means faster CPU.

 

For any further questions don't hesitate to ask  ❤️

 

Kind regards,

AllstarCRM

Thanks for the quick answer.

(All the tests were done at the Custom's map, security checkpoint area)

I have tried the custom resolution, didn't make a difference.

Also, I did actually borrow my friends RTX2080 TI and that made 0 difference either. Swapped it back and double checked..zero impact.

Anyhow, I did make some graphical tweaks and managed to get a range of 50fps to 80fps (45fps when scoping in bad weather), also made some changes to my graphics settings in-game as well. (but the average fps is 50)

Lastly, I have used Ryzenmaster to overclock the CPU from 3.4ghz to 4.1ghz which, seemingly made 0 impact either.

Thank you for the heads up about the hardware recommendation, I did briefly look into each component, but didn't make a decision yet. 

I won't be spending the budget for a while as I don't believe there's anything out there which can make this game run better. If you know someone who might do have 100fps, please let me know. ,I'll see if the game will be optimised and I'll put that money aside, prices even might drop by then, or even better hardware will be available :)

Thanks again!

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AllstarCRM
4 hours ago, rastommy77 said:

Lastly, I have used Ryzenmaster to overclock the CPU from 3.4ghz to 4.1ghz which, seemingly made 0 impact either.

Try to enable the "Coupled mode" under RYZEN MASTER Memory control section and don't forget to include it to the profile.
(Select push all AUTO for Voltage Controls and DRAM timing Configuration)

Don't forget to apply your profile every time you restart PC.

 

More information about Coupled Mode : it will try to maintain same clock speed for Memory Clock and Fabric Clock and will give you a more stable mermory.

 

Kind regards,

AllstarCRM

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Shaktimaan

@rastommy77

If you really want to, you can upgrade your processor to the latest AMD's 5000 series one, but honestly I don't think that you should upgrade your CPU just for playing a single video game.

I would highly advise you to wait for the Vulkan release (if it's ever going to come out) and not be bothered because of DX11's performance.

Right now, the API is the biggest bottleneck for everyone and upgrading your system isn't going to magically improve the performance by a significant margin as one would hope it would.

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