Heads hit boxes

October 27, 2020

Let me start by saying I have been playing FPS for 30+ years. I have built and maintained gaming rigs that entire time. I know someone always asks what a person is running and about the network and all but trust me I have everything I need to more then play this game. Here's my problem, I have been getting head shot so much that is it simply incredible. Since the patch I have been head shot so much that I have to wonder if the hit boxes have been changed and/or expanded? Since the patch I have died via head and jaws or eyes so much that I expect to see it. I could be wearing a Killa helmet and a lvl 5 vest and I still get shot in the eye. I could be not wearing a vest and still get shot in the eyes or jaw. It is getting to the point I am considering not playing this game but I at least wanted to post about it. I have put just shy of 1000 hours into the game and it would seem such a waste with how much I like the game to bow out because I am just that tired of this. I am sure there are many that feel the way I do and many that will call me a whiner and quit being a cutie that it is part of the game and they would be right it is but unfortunately hacking has become big business and the developers have to fight against it.

My suggestion would be add a head shot counter. If someone gets to many head shots in a game or day they are put under review. Not taken out of game play. Not in any way affected but watched. There is no good answer but at least that way people hacking or doing excessive head shots would have a check and balance.

2.1k · October 27, 2020

8 hours ago, ViciousMC said:

Let me start by saying I have been playing FPS for 30+ years. I have built and maintained gaming rigs that entire time. I know someone always asks what a person is running and about the network and all but trust me I have everything I need to more then play this game. Here's my problem, I have been getting head shot so much that is it simply incredible. Since the patch I have been head shot so much that I have to wonder if the hit boxes have been changed and/or expanded? Since the patch I have died via head and jaws or eyes so much that I expect to see it. I could be wearing a Killa helmet and a lvl 5 vest and I still get shot in the eye. I could be not wearing a vest and still get shot in the eyes or jaw. It is getting to the point I am considering not playing this game but I at least wanted to post about it. I have put just shy of 1000 hours into the game and it would seem such a waste with how much I like the game to bow out because I am just that tired of this. I am sure there are many that feel the way I do and many that will call me a whiner and quit being a cutie that it is part of the game and they would be right it is but unfortunately hacking has become big business and the developers have to fight against it.

My suggestion would be add a head shot counter. If someone gets to many head shots in a game or day they are put under review. Not taken out of game play. Not in any way affected but watched. There is no good answer but at least that way people hacking or doing excessive head shots would have a check and balance.

Due to how unrealistically powerful armor is, people usually try to shoot headshots. Armor vests cover the whole vest area ATM, but it will be changed to this system where there is only armor plates in the right spots in the vest, where you put them. I.e. in the front and back and in some vests even on the sides..

After that is implemented, we have the situation backwards; the unrealistically protective helmets will feel too sturdy and will probably be nerfed. AFAIK a SSH68 helmet can still take 5.45 rounds, which is absolutely ridiculous.

Edit: and to your actual suggestion, Id say that sth like what you describe is already probably a part of the AC. AC can track things like how fast you start shooting after the player is visible, how quickly you land the first shots, how well you mitigate recoil etc. The specifics about EFT AC are ofc unknown because the cheaters would benefit from knowing what to counter.

Edited October 27, 2020 by p4nnus

October 28, 2020

Hey p4nnus,

Thanks for your reply and yes there is a lot of stuff that will change and I realize it is partly in the tweaking. After all the game is still in beta and with the changes that have been talked about it will be a struggle. I do really like the direction this game is going and the few posts I have made, even if one of them was a angry rant, have been intended to help the game play be better. I know part of it is some people that have really fast reactions. I know part of it is network and so on. Hell I am getting older which I am sure doesn't help either but it is a little out of proportion. When I look at the PMC hit markers I am only seeing head shots and not body shots..... well it gets frustrating. I wasn't touching on the unloading a full mag and seeming to barely kill the unarmored foe or the sniping at the guy standing still and not seeming to get the head shot and he turns and drills me instead. Those things happen, hell I have done it to people myself and been unbelieving that it did happen. Its when the guy drills me with a single pistol round or I have been around a solid corner and suddenly die via head shot *that seems to go through the solid surface* that I start to have problems. Then when 3 out of 4 deaths are head shots (Head and eyes or jaw) for days on end... well yeah I start to ask questions. I got to the point of making this post. Something I try not to do but... well.... yeah. Lol. In any case thank you again for your response. Happy hunting and see you on the battlefield

Edited October 28, 2020 by ViciousMC

October 28, 2020

In the last week or so, I'm confident ~95% of my deaths are from headshots, which was never the case before - ever - and I'm playing the game for almost 2 years now.

And sure, this might just be a very unlucky streak on my part, but rather than suspecting cheating or a meta change, I wonder if the hitboxes / hit detection isn't bugged.

Edited October 28, 2020 by mirorego