Game breaking 'stealth' mechanics

[BlooDxHound]

Anyone who has ever fought scav bosses or raiders will know that they like to one shot you with rifle calibers in the thorax through level 6 and 5 armor every other fight, this is because scav bosses and raiders have a lot higher ammo fragmentation chance than when a PMC shoots that ammo, even on ammo like m61, 7n1, snb, 5.45 igolnik etc. The result, is getting one tapped by basic rifle rounds which do not one shot thorax, through level 5-6 armor rendering it mostly useless against raiders/bosses. 

I am calling these mechanics 'stealth' mechanics, because although they are in the game and pretty obvious, the developers of the game never confirmed them.

Bosses should be difficult to kill, not because they use aimbot and have magical fragmentation powers/can survive getting shot through the brain, but because they should be utilizing movement, ambushing the PMC's whilst moving from cover to cover, repositioning to not get spotted.

 

[S5_Mr_Wiggle]

i would like the bosses to be on par health and gun wise with pmc's if you want to make them hard make them head honchos calling minion after minion to their aid untill they are killed minions can spawn at edge of the map and b line it to bosses location or attackering pmc's location with them fighting anything they come across.

 

but that would require work.

[GhostZ69]

1 hour ago, BlooDxHound said:

Anyone who has ever fought scav bosses or raiders will know that they like to one shot you with rifle calibers in the thorax through level 6 and 5 armor every other fight, this is because scav bosses and raiders have a lot higher ammo fragmentation chance than when a PMC shoots that ammo, even on ammo like m61, 7n1, snb, 5.45 igolnik etc. The result, is getting one tapped by basic rifle rounds which do not one shot thorax, through level 5-6 armor rendering it mostly useless against raiders/bosses. 

I am calling these mechanics 'stealth' mechanics, because although they are in the game and pretty obvious, the developers of the game never confirmed them.

Bosses should be difficult to kill, not because they use aimbot and have magical fragmentation powers/can survive getting shot through the brain, but because they should be utilizing movement, ambushing the PMC's whilst moving from cover to cover, repositioning to not get spotted.

 

I agree but GOOD ai in a game is VERY difficult.  I am afraid it is WELL beyond anything BSG is capable of.

19 minutes ago, S5_Mr_Wiggle said:

i would like the bosses to be on par health and gun wise with pmc's if you want to make them hard make them head honchos calling minion after minion to their aid untill they are killed minions can spawn at edge of the map and b line it to bosses location or attackering pmc's location with them fighting anything they come across.

 

but that would require work.

The only problem with that would be that groups/good solos would cheese the crap out of this for easy peasy loot.  It sounds good at first glance, but I can just see a 5 man draining a boss for 45 minutes getting wave after wave of minions and then killing the boss and taking all of the loot.

[S5_Mr_Wiggle]

4 hours ago, GhostZ69 said:

I agree but GOOD ai in a game is VERY difficult.  I am afraid it is WELL beyond anything BSG is capable of.

The only problem with that would be that groups/good solos would cheese the crap out of this for easy peasy loot.  It sounds good at first glance, but I can just see a 5 man draining a boss for 45 minutes getting wave after wave of minions and then killing the boss and taking all of the loot.

still got to get out of raid alive and a person/group can only carry so much loot out if you are worried about farms just give the scavs basic sub machine guns or ak's and tozes with star shell loaded. (star shell is really mean this patch with the new bleed)