Scav Karma Suggestions

[oorozco01]

I am noticing that scavs are back to killing on site. 5+ scav raids I have been killed on sight, or while screaming in russian and wiggling to try to make a friend. The penalties for killing another scav are not nearly high enough, specially when you can just extract as a PMC and gain a crap ton of rep. As a fix, I think the penalties for killing another scav should be steep, akin to -.5. Moreover, I think that if your scav karma is too low, you should be unable to use PMC vehicle extracts. Also, you should be rewarded slightly for completing/dying a raid as a scav without killing your fellow scavs. .2 and .1 respectively should do the trick. 

I dont know what change recently, but scavs were friendlier until this past week. As it stands, there is no longer an incentive for me to give another player the benefit of the doubt. There is not enough incentive for them to behave either. So now we are in a situation where we are all going to kill on sight, and also lose rep for it. Doesnt make sense. If the point of karma is to have friendlier interactions, then those friendly interactions need to be rewarded. Otherwise, killing a scav because they spawned with a huge backpack is always worth it, vs making a friend.

Again, there should be some sort of reward for going through a scav raid without killing some other scav, or being killed by a violent KOS scav. Otherwise, being "friendly" is a losing proposition almost in every way.

Before you argue "scavs are supposed to be violent creatures blah blah" - hey man, this game is supposed to try and simulate a real world environment. Very  few people risk their life to shoot someone else on sight just because. 

[cpltrout]

voip is needed for this to work properly 

and yes the penalty needs to be way harsher you need a different uniform for bad scavs and you should gain rep for killing them

it would be nice if you kill friendly scavs 2 raids in a row your marked and cursed on your next pmc raid

[ricacov]

Honestly, I used to care about scav karma, but I don't now. It's like everything in life: the side who care less has the upper hand.

31 minutes ago, cpltrout said:

it would be nice if you kill friendly scavs 2 raids in a row your marked and cursed on your next pmc raid

And no, with penalities everyone already kills scav as scav, with incentive everyone would slaughter scavs (for the kill X scavs quest to be so much easier).

[Sir_Mossy]

33 minutes ago, cpltrout said:

voip is needed for this to work properly 

and yes the penalty needs to be way harsher you need a different uniform for bad scavs and you should gain rep for killing them

it would be nice if you kill friendly scavs 2 raids in a row your marked and cursed on your next pmc raid

Maybe next SCAV raid, but definitely NOT for your PMC raid.

Do you have any idea how much people would game that system to get easy SCAV kills? If you know that you're going to have every SCAV in a 10 mile radius running to your location after killing a bunch of friendly SCAVs, do you really think people aren't gonna abuse it to get easy experience?

If it was tagged & cursed on your SCAV raids, then that's all good. You won't be gaining any account XP to level up, your gun will be low quality and probably garbage, and you can't get any quest progress from killing SCAVs as a SCAV. 

1 minute ago, ricacov said:

And no, with penalities everyone already kills scav as scav, with incentive everyone would slaughter scavs (for the kill X scavs quest to be so much easier).

I was thinking the same thing as well. I can't imagine someone who wouldn't want to be tagged & cursed when you have a "kill X amount of SCAVs on X map" quest, since it would draw all of them to you and make it 100 times easier.

[cpltrout]

last i heard the scavs don't chase you down they just know where you are and prioritize you as a target. Did this changed at some point? I thought they got rid of  scavs chasing you down since squads were bringing a hatchlling with them to draw out all the scavs. 

Edited July 23, 2021 by cpltrout

[_Dog_]

7/10 Scav runs today, killed by player scavs. They clearly don't care anymore. 

[Jaqen_Hghar]

The game doesn't explain anything about Scav karma.  I see something pop up some times on bottom of screen, something about fence.  Is that the karma?  The game doesn't say what it is, or why I should care.

[Wulffon]

Maybe your characters face needs to be covered in blood or something so it shows you as scav killer ?

At the end of the day atm very few pple care at all they just shoot on sight or provoke you to defend yourself.

You defend yourself they shoot at you not hit you and you have to decide wheather to defend, take a hit and maybe die, you get screwed.

IF its a higher level player they dont care they have the cash to buy what they want on the market the lower lvls get screwed.