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Does anyone know if there is a new timeline planned for beta? I know they just added new waves for Alpha testing, but I haven't seen a 2017 timeline for expected progress dates. There was a 2016 version but since then there has been no revised table. Would be nice :) 

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Aerror

no one knows when beta starts.....there are rumors about Q1 to start beta...but thats it

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ZombieBun

Probably when EOD preorders die down

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necuja

Beta is at a unknown release any information will be posted on the project news section of the forums just stay tuned for the update when the devs feel the game has hit a stage where it is acceptable to hit closed beta it will happen :)

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ODD

Could be 2018 for all we know. Devs wanna get things juuussst right. 

Trouble is, people move on, new games come out. 

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DAprojectTurtle

I just preordered the game. does that mean I can play the closed beta now??

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LoudHawk
3 minutes ago, DAprojectTurtle said:

I just preordered the game. does that mean I can play the closed beta now??

No, the game is currently in Alpha. You will be able to play the closed alpha once it is released. Depending on the version you have purchased, you may be able to play the current alpha.

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DAprojectTurtle

oh ok I bought the standard version. it said guaranteed access to closed beta..

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The_Kraut
vor 5 Minuten schrieb DAprojectTurtle:

I just preordered the game. does that mean I can play the closed beta now??

Depending on your version.

 

I rather have the Devs take longer in the Alpha/Beta and bring a good game. The people will come back if it is good.

If they rush, people go and not enough new come back.

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DAprojectTurtle

I agree.. guess I got to fork out more money then lol because I want to play dammit..

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Jezeppe
22 hours ago, The_Kraut said:

I rather have the Devs take longer in the Alpha/Beta and bring a good game.

I'd rather have the Devs hire more people from all the money and bring the game at least slightly delayed than the scam it is now.

They said Beta and Release will happen in 2016. Turns out after 3 years of development they have only about 1/4 of the game done. 1 year past the trailer we are still behind in what was shown there as already implemented. What a joke. What a scam. No Mans Sky 2.0.

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Mythlawlbear

Lol, this is definiatly not, "No man's sky 2.0." That said it is silly that beta is not out yet. Beta/Alpha is almost the same thing, you know they're just mining EOD.

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The_Kraut
4 hours ago, Jezeppe said:

I'd rather have the Devs hire more people from all the money and bring the game at least slightly delayed than the scam it is now.

They said Beta and Release will happen in 2016. Turns out after 3 years of development they have only about 1/4 of the game done. 1 year past the trailer we are still behind in what was shown there as already implemented. What a joke. What a scam. No Mans Sky 2.0.

If it is THAT easy, to develop a good game, where are all the good games? Many Games are rushed and flawed in the end. 

Look at Ubisoft. Massive amount of Cash to back up the development of good games. What do they do? Rush -> Flawed Game/Scam.

Like the previous stress test and alpha showed, there is some detail work to be done, and doing that, consumes man-power, time and ultimatly money. 

And you cannot just say,  add people, to speed up. more people does no alwayst mean, it gets done faster. 

You have to be carefull with the moeny, for you dont know what happens. there is always a need for some reserves. 

 

Ever tried to build up your own company or department ? Same thing.

 

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Jezeppe
1 hour ago, The_Kraut said:

If it is THAT easy, to develop a good game, where are all the good games? Many Games are rushed and flawed in the end. 

Look at Ubisoft. Massive amount of Cash to back up the development of good games. What do they do? Rush -> Flawed Game/Scam.

Like the previous stress test and alpha showed, there is some detail work to be done, and doing that, consumes man-power, time and ultimatly money. 

And you cannot just say,  add people, to speed up. more people does no alwayst mean, it gets done faster. 

You have to be carefull with the moeny, for you dont know what happens. there is always a need for some reserves. 

 

Ever tried to build up your own company or department ? Same thing.

How does any of that make up for this game being a scam? Just because there are other companies having shady policies, it is fine for everybody to do?

Nobody said developing a game is easy. That doesn't excuse the fact that this game was advertised for a release in 2016 and now in 2017 is not even close to be finished. I don't want a rushed product. I want the product they promised to deliver, but I don't want it 10 years later. And when I order a product, I don't care how they are going to deliver it or how many resources they are going to spend on it, all I care about is the product itself. Here I paid for the game and not for 1 guy sitting in a corner for 30 years working on it. So if they only manage to make 1 map per year, they should maybe hire a couple of additional map designers to work on the other locations in parallel to at least deliver the game by 2018. After all those prepurchases there is absolutely no excuse for just sitting on the money and expecting us, the customers, to sit back and wait for the game to be done in 2025, stop playing games and/or forget and stop caring about the 150 bucks.

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Auvlen
On 2/1/2017 at 6:50 PM, ArmaSwiss said:

"A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad"
-Shigeru Miyamoto ;)

Lol i stoped reading posts right here. Dont meen to call you out but i laughed until my sides hurt when you quoted a guy whos company is well known for screwing over pc titles with rushed dates prioritising console versions over the higher resource content of pc exclusives. Iv personaly seen AAA tiles get their roadmaps scrambled and half the content cut by sony and nintendo contracts... Not to say hes not awesome but hes no Sun Tzu.

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Auvlen
22 minutes ago, ArmaSwiss said:

True. You don't have to agree with a persons actions to agree with the core message behind something they say though...

Separate the Message from the Messenger

Fair statement ^

So o that not:

 “All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.” - Adolf Hitler

So history tells us keeping people in the dark is a dark road indeed...

i think people realy just want more transparency. My company had a community relations board member that was our 5th share owner and had experience in coding across 2 relavent game engines and yet he still found it more important as a small crew that we have constant transparency with our alpha groups. As a consumer i am frustrated with this too often nowdays.

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Auvlen
23 minutes ago, Auvlen said:

Fair statement ^

So o that not:

 “All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.” - Adolf Hitler

So history tells us keeping people in the dark is a dark road indeed...

i think people realy just want more transparency. My company had a community relations board member that was our 5th share owner and had experience in coding across 2 relavent game engines and yet he still found it more important as a small crew that we have constant transparency with our alpha groups. As a consumer i am frustrated with this too often nowdays.

Mic drop...

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glumnut
2 hours ago, Jezeppe said:

How does any of that make up for this game being a scam? Just because there are other companies having shady policies, it is fine for everybody to do?

Nobody said developing a game is easy. That doesn't excuse the fact that this game was advertised for a release in 2016 and now in 2017 is not even close to be finished. I don't want a rushed product. I want the product they promised to deliver, but I don't want it 10 years later. And when I order a product, I don't care how they are going to deliver it or how many resources they are going to spend on it, all I care about is the product itself. Here I paid for the game and not for 1 guy sitting in a corner for 30 years working on it. So if they only manage to make 1 map per year, they should maybe hire a couple of additional map designers to work on the other locations in parallel to at least deliver the game by 2018. After all those prepurchases there is absolutely no excuse for just sitting on the money and expecting us, the customers, to sit back and wait for the game to be done in 2025, stop playing games and/or forget and stop caring about the 150 bucks.

lol come on u know all alpha games is basicly just u investing in the idea they sell and hoping it will turn out like they say , and not like they have to deliver something u payed for i suggest u wait till its released and then complain about u not getting what they promised, then i would most def agree with u.

but u know its alpha and u know better than to just call it a scam , let´s put it into context with a tattoo u want him to rush the danm thing and then complaing it looks like poo.

and comparing to something like dayz which have been in development for so long 3y now even before that the idea of dayz was at least a couple of yea old prior to the release of the mod so from ur logic dayz have 5 years in alpha.

ETF been open to the puplic since sep last year so thats about 5 months now and not 2 years as u claim yea the idea was probaly born 2 years ago but that doesnt mean we been waiting for sooooooo long , all of us have invested in the game we did NOT buy a finish product with buyers right to make any demands

 

i do get ur skeptism doe,  sometimes it seems like we are not the reel testers but i don´t know man i just want this game to perfect and not get ruin trying to please  the community

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ElChupacabras

Do not despair guys
This project is big...
And I do not think that others try to do the same at this point
Remember that this project has unique things,
The armamentistic system is unique, and only with that I am happy.-

Have patience, sometimes there delays, and that is to give them the best for you.-

For that reason I thank the effort that the team and the community have made for this project to leave as soon as possible.-

Regards.-

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Auvlen
18 minutes ago, ArmaSwiss said:

An update on all the content BattleState Games has been working on behind the scenes, if you've missed it ;)

 

Lmfao That video esentuates my point to the enth degree...

“All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the >COMPREHENSION OF THE LEAST INTELLIGENT< of those whom it seeks to reach.”

- Adolf Hitler

Note that there were no flowcharts, roadmaps, quarterly goals, asset values, spawn weights, rigging additions, node structures, poly mappings, common shader usage, exc. NO WORKFLOW shown other than the odd model or keyframe shown in the background.

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Auvlen

Thats just it. Its not that im holding them to the standards of other companies. Im holding them to ethical standards of all buisiness. Ever heard of the BBB better buisiness beureu? There are serious downward trends in the industry that caused me to leave and while i can only speek for myself in regards to weather or not DRM is bad, using an alpha test group admission as a price point and not treating them as alpha testers after they initialy buy in is wrong by any standards in any company.

 

How would you like it if you were allowed to have the latest model of car early for twice the normal price and the advert point of sale was that you got to see the new engine technology it uses... But then you buy said car only to find the hood locked and only the dealer is allowed to open it. Not cool right?

after being on over a dozen development boards across all platforms and several companies indie and AAA i have never seen an alpha test group not get full access and or a knolledge base to reference. And i never said "they are doing nothing. I just payed to see what they are when they do it like an alpha tester does by defanition.

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BiodecayYT
2 minutes ago, ArmaSwiss said:

If you can make any points on how Battlestate Games has violated basic business ethics, your point may be valid.

And the Better Business Bureau....isn't even a regulating entity in the United States. It's a private entity....and it has a history of a few shady dealings, and would have a bad grade itself if it was put under the same standards as it applies towards other businesses..

But currently at this time, you're entire arguement is 'BSG hasn't been as transparent as this other Indie Dev. They should be doing ALL OF THIS (insert list) instead of what they are doing now"

You're analogy also makes no sense, because it's not applicable. You're buying a car with all the available packages, which makes it double the cost of the version without any extra packages installed. You're also pre-ordering the car because development of it isn't complete, so they only show you whats been fully finished and they're comfortable showing to you, the customer. 

That is more applicable because the game is not fully finished or in a Release-state. Like a car you would buy off of a lot is.....

And your past experience, if any, in games development, should have you know that every games development company has their own way of doing things. There is no 'standard' on how a game is developed or how games in alpha have their future content developed or announced. Some companies don't announce it at all. Some have dedicated people to create fancy graphs and road maps to provide to the players. This is on a per-case basis, not an industry standard.

Well said.

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Auvlen
7 minutes ago, BiodecayYT said:

Well said.

If you feel that way fine but please plus one him or add to the argument brutha

 

9 minutes ago, ArmaSwiss said:

If you can make any points on how Battlestate Games has violated basic business ethics, your point may be valid.

And the Better Business Bureau....isn't even a regulating entity in the United States. It's a private entity....and it has a history of a few shady dealings, and would have a bad grade itself if it was put under the same standards as it applies towards other businesses..

But currently at this time, you're entire arguement is 'BSG hasn't been as transparent as this other Indie Dev. They should be doing ALL OF THIS (insert list) instead of what they are doing now"

You're analogy also makes no sense, because it's not applicable. You're buying a car with all the available packages, which makes it double the cost of the version without any extra packages installed. You're also pre-ordering the car because development of it isn't complete, so they only show you whats been fully finished and they're comfortable showing to you, the customer. 

That is more applicable because the game is not fully finished or in a Release-state. Like a car you would buy off of a lot is.....

And your past experience, if any, in games development, should have you know that every games development company has their own way of doing things. There is no 'standard' on how a game is developed or how games in alpha have their future content developed or announced. Some companies don't announce it at all. Some have dedicated people to create fancy graphs and road maps to provide to the players. This is on a per-case basis, not an industry standard.

Why degrade the conversation with accusations? At this point im more concerned about why you feel personaly affended?

As for my argument it is perfectly valid. I did not buy "the complete package" i preordered to lend freelance services and ended up stuck on a forum with a partiel and cut down version of the game client that isnt current and not given any access to the development builds. 

As for you trying to discredit my argument on ethics you are right. They havnt violated ethical code but that doesnt make what they are doing wrong to an extent. There are plenty of people that feel that way and No Mans Sky is a close example of what lack in transparency leads to. Thats another example of a community that wanted to know more and ended up disatisfied because of misinformation.

Battlestate is a great company and i in no way aim to insult them i just wanted to discuss this topic in an aplicable post because it is a problem weather you feel it is or not.

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Auvlen
11 minutes ago, ArmaSwiss said:

I'm only going to quote something I found. I'm sure it will read as something very familiar to you. And this will be my last point in regards to this topic as you seem to be switching points and arguing for the sake of arguing...
 

 

Yeah thats a one man project with one czech guy helping as best as the language barrier allows lol. Im not realy seeing the point. Thats a game running on limited liscense and personaly funded. If i were to release too much before the title is secured than i would not make it to an alpha that people can play. And if ever i can manage all that work myself i have a 8tb drive dedicated to video logs i intend to share as much as people find relavent durring the alpha phase.

Know what your talking about before you go dropping that mod hammer buddy. Not sure what the power trip is for. I have no problem with you disagreeing but no need to make it personal. You have tons of silly posts on here and you dont see me slapping them up when i dont even know the context they were posted with.

Well we are in agreement on one thing. This derailed fast.

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Auvlen
2 minutes ago, ArmaSwiss said:

These are my personal opinions on the matter. You aren't going to be warned or punished for any of your opinions. I'm not into that. As long as the forum rules are followed, everything's good in my book, even if I don't agree with your opinions. Abuse of Power is one of the things I absolutely loathe :P

That's kind of the reason for having a discussion. And it wasn't to make it personal, but once you referenced your 'personal history in game development' as a citation for one of your reasonings, it then allows it to be included into a discussion, as that citation then must be able to be analyzed and discussed. Premise and Conclusion, and all that :P

Fair enough. I cant post certs here for certain reasons i have created very little content do to specialised fields i cant go taking credit from others so i sent you a pm on the topic and we can leave this one less spammed lol

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