HK416

[Not_Offensive 44]

Can we expect a HK416 upper receiver conversion or full weapon in the game?

[NateLB 149]

There is already a topic started that is designed for these types of questions/suggestions 

 

[MrPicklesTheDog 35]

Answered above by @NateLB!

Please make sure that any weapon suggestions are in the correct Weapons Department Topic, thanks!

#moved

 

[ComradeBurris 345]

2 hours ago, Abrad0lfLincler said:

Can we expect a HK416 upper receiver conversion or full weapon in the game?

HK416 and HK417 are confirmed! expect them very very late though!

[Pocketlite20 30]

On 9/15/2017 at 7:31 PM, MaejorRaskoln said:

HK416 and HK417 are confirmed! expect them very very late though!

Probably Open Beta or full release? I mean, they are adding over 200 guns, sooooo

[Crumpsy 0]

How I'd love the 416/417 variants, excited!

[Marcus-Dukes 7]

Cant wait

[dbruch 3]

I would love to use a German HK417. Would always go with .308. got more punch. Don't like 5.56. :-)

[buchi 1]

yeah the 417 would be great, would love to see some 7.62 battle rifles.

[KhandE 103]

2 hours ago, dbruch said:

I would love to use a German HK417. Would always go with .308. got more punch. Don't like 5.56. :-)

Take a look at someone who's actually been shot with well designed 5.56mm rounds and see if you still have that opinion.

[Gr8WhiteBuffalo 392]

On 10/23/2017 at 11:24 PM, Pocketlite20 said:

Probably Open Beta or full release? I mean, they are adding over 200 guns, sooooo

Yeah, more like time of release... unfortunately... 416 is one of my all time fave's.  

And they plan to add over 200... here's hoping that reality aligns with their desires. 

2 hours ago, dbruch said:

Would always go with .308. got more punch. Don't like 5.56. :-)

4 minutes ago, KhandE said:

Take a look at someone who's actually been shot with well designed 5.56mm rounds and see if you still have that opinion.

Exactamundo. Theres a reason 99% of all military uses 5.56/5.45 now... the word is: Penetration. (Giggity)

When it come to range shooting... 308's are doubtless more fun. When it come to "punching" through armor; the smaller, faster round will win every time. 

[Nyut 0]

Hk in this game will be great

[Worg78 0]

i hope they will add it

[TheYounGun 1]

nice

[Rice 3]

Would be really nice to get one.

[magpull-K9 3]

yep it would be great if these guns are coming. The next point is that we can go in and under water in game...cause the 416 can shoot very good from a submerged position. the you're never safe even around shore lines.

[mustangmania540 0]

I would love to have a 416

[Gael 0]

the 416 is nice for this game

 

[ethanm5000 3]

Yeah, It would be a nice addition. I wonder how it would compare to the current m4.

[Svarainius 0]

nice

[Veron8201 2]

my friend really want one

[L3HR 0]

On 2018-01-13 at 9:16 PM, Gr8WhiteBuffalo said:

Yeah, more like time of release... unfortunately... 416 is one of my all time fave's.  

And they plan to add over 200... here's hoping that reality aligns with their desires. 

Exactamundo. Theres a reason 99% of all military uses 5.56/5.45 now... the word is: Penetration. (Giggity)

When it come to range shooting... 308's are doubtless more fun. When it come to "punching" through armor; the smaller, faster round will win every time. 

Could you provide a source as to your claims that 5.56 NATO penetrates better than 7.62 NATO? 

[Gr8WhiteBuffalo 392]

1 hour ago, L3HR said:

Could you provide a source as to your claims that 5.56 NATO penetrates better than 7.62 NATO? 

7.62 NATO(7.62x51) is a sniper round, more grains, and will definitely out-penetrate any 22...

Considering we are talking about an AR, the direct competitor would be the AKM/SKS 7.62x39, which is a much slower bullet. 

 

7.62x39 averages ~2,356 feet per second at the muzzle.

7.62x51 averages ~2,733 feet per second.

5.56 855 ammo averages ~3,025 feet per second.

 

Physics tells us that a smaller, faster object, will have less resistance to stoppage than a slower, larger object.  

Its unfortunate that I cant find the video... there was an episode of Future Weapons; years ago when the 416 was still just a concept, where he shot 855A1 ammo(AP) through a 416 and BP ammo(also AP) through an AKM into large wood sheets, simulating walls; and again through 1/2" steel plate. 

The difference is fairly marginal, but the 5.56 certainly outperformed.

At a certain range, they would - in theory - perform identically, as the lighter 5.56 loses inertia faster than the heavier 7.62... but at that range youre likely not going to hit your target without a "big" rifle round. (7.62x51/54 etc.)

Note that this graph shows 223 Remington, which has a bit less chamber pressure than 5.56 NATO. 

I hope this clears things up for you.  

Cheers
GWB

[Fievre40 0]

Hope to see hk416 and hk417 soon 

[KhandE 103]

On 2/4/2018 at 5:10 PM, Gr8WhiteBuffalo said:

7.62 NATO(7.62x51) is a sniper round, more grains, and will definitely out-penetrate any 22...

Considering we are talking about an AR, the direct competitor would be the AKM/SKS 7.62x39, which is a much slower bullet. 

 

7.62x39 averages ~2,356 feet per second at the muzzle.

7.62x51 averages ~2,733 feet per second.

5.56 855 ammo averages ~3,025 feet per second.

 

Physics tells us that a smaller, faster object, will have less resistance to stoppage than a slower, larger object.  

Its unfortunate that I cant find the video... there was an episode of Future Weapons; years ago when the 416 was still just a concept, where he shot 855A1 ammo(AP) through a 416 and BP ammo(also AP) through an AKM into large wood sheets, simulating walls; and again through 1/2" steel plate. 

The difference is fairly marginal, but the 5.56 certainly outperformed.

At a certain range, they would - in theory - perform identically, as the lighter 5.56 loses inertia faster than the heavier 7.62... but at that range youre likely not going to hit your target without a "big" rifle round. (7.62x51/54 etc.)

Note that this graph shows 223 Remington, which has a bit less chamber pressure than 5.56 NATO. 

I hope this clears things up for you.  

Cheers
GWB

There's so many factual errors and flat out nonsense in this post that I seriously question if future weapons happens to be the only place you've ever seen an actual weapon.