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The sks is the most over powered gun in this game. Its cheap and half the time one shots through a fast helmet. For the price of the gun it should have more recoil or less power cause the gun at its current form is just stupid. 

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zpwarrior
4 minutes ago, GMR said:

The sks is the most over powered gun in this game. Its cheap and half the time one shots through a fast helmet. For the price of the gun it should have more recoil or less power cause the gun at its current form is just stupid. 

It's a a big round and it's gonna hit hard. I think you are the first person to complain about an sks on the forums.

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Jlesaistu

i think SKS and vepr are totally fine. 

 

actually that and the AK-74u are pretty much the saving grace of player with level 1 vendor...

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Lightstrike778

nah the sks is fine ITs a 7.62 round any helm would most likely not prevent Penetration 

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MIkeKillson

The sks doesn't need a nerf, If they'd do anything to it they'd make it cost a bit more but that's it imo 

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bUm805

In Tarkov engagement distances, a 7.62x39 will go through a fast helmet which is only IIIA. Heck, it will go through any modern military helmet.

Sks is fine :)

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KhandE

There's not a helmet on the market rated to stop rifle fire.

Seems like a dose of learn to play is in order.

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Mr_Cossack

No it doesn't, if someone hits you in the head with a 7.62 then you should be dead. 

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adampzb
4 hours ago, KhandE said:

There's not a helmet on the market rated to stop rifle fire.

Seems like a dose of learn to play is in order.

 

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KhandE
On 2/6/2018 at 4:40 PM, zpwarrior said:

It's a a big round and it's gonna hit hard. I think you are the first person to complain about an sks on the forums.

You may think that but sadly....

 

32 minutes ago, adampzb said:

 

Notice how I said "On the market", this is vaporware that has been listed as for sale forever, yet both their site and Amazon who they claim will sell it (where people often sell items of questionable integrity) both have it listed as "coming soon."

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UncleDark

@adampzbnotice how back of the target head is deformed after first shot? Sure it might not blow a neat hole into your head. But it still would give you a hell of a concussion, and possibly sink some skull fragments in to your brain with chance of killing you.

So yeah with head gear you currently have available ingame, even 9mm has a chance of penetrating it.

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adampzb
5 hours ago, KhandE said:

You may think that but sadly....

 

Notice how I said "On the market", this is vaporware that has been listed as for sale forever, yet both their site and Amazon who they claim will sell it (where people often sell items of questionable integrity) both have it listed as "coming soon."

Idk much about military irl, but im pretty sure u wouldn't be able to buy for example dvl 10 as well, it still exist and is in game, same like this helmet could be because it definitely exist and working.

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Nosko81
On 2018-02-07 at 12:35 AM, GMR said:

The sks is the most over powered gun in this game. Its cheap and half the time one shots through a fast helmet. For the price of the gun it should have more recoil or less power cause the gun at its current form is just stupid. 

Learn by the sad marks ye?

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JJamie
6 hours ago, UncleDark said:

@adampzbnotice how back of the target head is deformed after first shot? Sure it might not blow a neat hole into your head. But it still would give you a hell of a concussion, and possibly sink some skull fragments in to your brain with chance of killing you.

So yeah with head gear you currently have available ingame, even 9mm has a chance of penetrating it.

thats because its just the helmet. there is no padding or anything on the inside - once you add the padding and strapping, in order to make sure your head isn't sitting directly against the helmet, this won't happen. your neck will get one hell of a workout though.

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skantesaria

this game isn't meant to be a hollywood shooter the idea is to be as realistic as possible. 7.62 will make or break you in the real world and the sks is just a tool to deliver the pain train. 

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Metalaggression

SKS is fine. It's a 7.62 round shot from an iconic carbine.  It's going to hurt.

It's truly disappointing seeing those at the top of the food chain trying to nerf out the lowbies even more just to make themselves feel even stronger.

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qS_Sachiel

SKS and vepr are fine.

Semi auto, 20round clip, SKS has godawful reload time and can't get suppressor until level 3 skier, also doubletap or fast semi-fire can be hampered by the timing lag so you can't just crack off like in PUBG or insurgency.

it's also as good if not worse than the Vepr, given the vepr can hold more rounds, can be modded further and easier/earlier than the SKS can, and they both fire the same round with approximately the same characteristics.

 

Git Gud.

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TanithScout

I feel like this post was made to bait me, so yeh I'll just nod, smile and agree.

On 2/6/2018 at 11:40 PM, zpwarrior said:

It's a a big round and it's gonna hit hard. I think you are the first person to complain about an sks on the forums.

Ever the politician

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KhandE
20 hours ago, adampzb said:

Idk much about military irl, but im pretty sure u wouldn't be able to buy for example dvl 10 as well, it still exist and is in game, same like this helmet could be because it definitely exist and working.

Gonna have to speak for yourself on that one. well, while I can't "specifically" get the DVL-10 here, that's not because of any features of the design itself, but rather the fact most Russian firearms makers have had an import ban in my country since the Crimean Crises started unfortunately.

But hell, I can literally get a suppressed SBR with all manaor of magazine types and sizes and many long range precision rifles suppressed like the DVL-10, full body IIIA soft body armor fitted with pockets for Level III-Level IV armor plates (the latter will take multiple hits from pulled .30-06 M2 AP rounds loaded into hotter .300 Winchester Magnum casings before failing) and a hard coated "Level IIIA+" (not an official designation, but people often call hard coated helmets this because said coating helps it survive a bit more than standard IIIA armor normally will.) so long as I've never been declared insane by medical professionals or have a criminal record.

This is a very good hard coated IIIA helmet actually on the market, as you can see, it holds up just fine even to very fast pistol loads that would normally pen IIIA, but still gets demolished by mere M193 out of a 16" barreled AR-15. (The .50 AE would have a chance of knocking you out or killing you even with the padding inside, but keep in mind IIIA is NOT rated to stop .50 AE so this is not the fault of the manufacturer, but rather testing a round against it it's not designed or tested to protect against.)

 

 

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KhandE

Though I should point out, one odd thing about M193 is that even though M855 was thought to be armor piercing (despite never being classified as such) because it had a steel frontal core and a heavier weight compared to the older M193 FMJ round (62gr vs 55gr), M193 will ironically penetrate steel armor at short distances that M855 cant at any distance because of the sheer velocity difference between the two.

 

Speed really does kill, or penetrate in this case.

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DEOVONTAY

Guys.

It's a game. A realistic game, but it's still a game.

Five paragraphs about how you can buy guns and helmets in your country or how a helmet exists that stops bullets except it isn't for sale so it doesn't exist doesn't change the fact that this is a game, and it should be balanced around being fun. This doesn't have anything to do with my point, it's just prudent to remember that part. Realism and gameplay need to go hand in hand, which is why your shitposting about "real life" gun things doesn't mean dick in this context.

The current SKS model is fine as evidenced by the fact that you don't see a lot of people running them. I think it's a great gun for the price, but if it was broken overpowered you would see more people using it. I definitely see a lot more AKMs than SKSs, as someone else mentioned because it holds more bullets and has much better capacity for mods. Look at it this way, a modded AKM shoots the same rounds as the SKS and therefore does the same damage. But it holds 10 extra rounds and can be modded to have half as much recoil, which means there isn't much reason to use the SKS.

I think it would be cool to see a higher priced (50k-75k) modernized version of the SKS with more capacity for modding. Given a good stock and foregrip it could be a more cost effective and more widely available alternative to the RSASS for a DMR.

inb4 some tool tells me the "modern SKS" isn't actually an SKS because it's called something else because in real life they live in derkaderkistan and they can't import one but they basically can so they know the poo out of SKSes. You get the idea.

 

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Chamil

A sniper OP? 

Consider that if the SKS gets in a close range fight with an AKM or AK74, it'll lose. 

It doesn't have the rof to keep up. 
It shouldn't be nerfed. 

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Jlesaistu
2 hours ago, Chamil said:

A sniper OP? 

Consider that if the SKS gets in a close range fight with an AKM or AK74, it'll lose. 

It doesn't have the rof to keep up. 
It shouldn't be nerfed. 

sks is a sniper now ?

 

damn, SKS was no where designed or is accurate enought to be called a sniper. It was build as a pretty cheap standar infantry riffle, just like m1a1 carbine for exemple. just it having firing 7.62 R round (who just happened to be a popular mass produced round back in the time) dont make it a sniper.  That like saying every 7.62 NATO chambered weapon are sniper because some sniper used the round.

 

 

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georgeadam
On 2/6/2018 at 11:35 PM, GMR said:

The sks is the most over powered gun in this game. Its cheap and half the time one shots through a fast helmet. For the price of the gun it should have more recoil or less power cause the gun at its current form is just stupid. 

Only 1 taps through the Fast MT with BP rounds AND the victim not to have upgraded the helmet with the side and face guards. 

I still take an SKS over every other gun though as it just fits how I like to play.

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Ridickmint

I'm pretty sure that helmets are not designed to stop rifle rounds but more the case of stopping shrapnel fragments, debris and maybe the odd round if it hits it on an angle to potentially deflect off it which you can see on some vids but apart from that even if it stopped the round the kinetic energy that would still travel through and cause some serious damage without actual penetration.

 

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