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Here's a good question for the development team that will never be answered;

Is this game still going to be as hardcore as it was advertised to be? I'm tired of all these basic cutie streamers crying that the game is too difficult, and causing mayhem on your Reddit page (THAT ISN'T THIS FORUM -- THE ONE YOU SHOULD BE PAYING ATTENTION TO SEEING AS THE BETA FORUM IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE BY THOSE ABLE TO GET INTO THE BETA..). 

Why is this game becoming super casual? Why are you listening to people and kids, that I understood when I pre-ordered, that this game would not cater to?

Is there any hope left? Will this still be hardcore; or should I just give up and assume I've been ripped off by people falsely advertising a product I wanted so badly to enjoy?

I'm frustrated beyond all end. More so now that you decide to immortalize streamers that have been worsening the community overall by bringing in kids and young immature adults that demand you water down this hardcore experience; the sad part is that you've obliged and given in. I get that you want to make money, but this is beyond pathetic.

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2 hours ago, Electric_Tiger said:

Here's a good question for the development team that will never be answered;

Is this game still going to be as hardcore as it was advertised to be? I'm tired of all these basic cutie streamers crying that the game is too difficult, and causing mayhem on your Reddit page (THAT ISN'T THIS FORUM -- THE ONE YOU SHOULD BE PAYING ATTENTION TO SEEING AS THE BETA FORUM IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE BY THOSE ABLE TO GET INTO THE BETA..). 

Why is this game becoming super casual? Why are you listening to people and kids, that I understood when I pre-ordered, that this game would not cater to?

Is there any hope left? Will this still be hardcore; or should I just give up and assume I've been ripped off by people falsely advertising a product I wanted so badly to enjoy?

I'm frustrated beyond all end. More so now that you decide to immortalize streamers that have been worsening the community overall by bringing in kids and young immature adults that demand you water down this hardcore experience; the sad part is that you've obliged and given in. I get that you want to make money, but this is beyond pathetic.

Why exactly are you 'frustrated beyond all end'?? Personally if it hadn't been for Summit I wouldn't have bought the game.. Don't really see why you're getting so worked up but anyway... 

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4 hours ago, AlexL84 said:

Why exactly are you 'frustrated beyond all end'?? Personally if it hadn't been for Summit I wouldn't have bought the game.. Don't really see why you're getting so worked up but anyway... 

+1 I Bought the game because of summit too

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5 hours ago, AlexL84 said:

Why exactly are you 'frustrated beyond all end'?? Personally if it hadn't been for Summit I wouldn't have bought the game.. Don't really see why you're getting so worked up but anyway... 

This game was advertised about not ever going to be catering to a large group of people.

 

Reddit and streamers have proven that this is wrong.

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3 minutes ago, Electric_Tiger said:

This game was advertised about not ever going to be catering to a large group of people.

 

Reddit and streamers have proven that this is wrong.

But ultimately it's a business just like any other, BSG certainly aren't gonna close the shop and keep working for a closed community for free for the next few years.. If the community grows, their budget grows, their team will too, and ultimately the game will become better and better. Don't see why you're getting upset over it, it's a good game, of course it's gonna attract a lot of people.

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17 minutes ago, AlexL84 said:

But ultimately it's a business just like any other, BSG certainly aren't gonna close the shop and keep working for a closed community for free for the next few years.. If the community grows, their budget grows, their team will too, and ultimately the game will become better and better. Don't see why you're getting upset over it, it's a good game, of course it's gonna attract a lot of people.

Half of the worlds population could play this game. You're right, that would make it better. 

However, that is not the point I am trying to make. If their sales increase, the level of hardcore should never decrease; yet some of the best ideas I have seen for this game have been born and ultimately ignored on these forums..

There is very little interaction from community managers and developers here. I understand that developers are busy, but isnt that why we have community managers? Right now all I see in interaction is the bare minimum, and since I've been here it seems like that has taken a toll on the quality of the game.

Right now it seems like a lot of streamers are playing this game like it's a disgusting Call of Duty mutation. This brings in players looking at it like it is full of fast pace twitch gameplay. When something doesn't work out in that sense, they run to reddit and cry about it.

 

Not just that, but iirc the last maintenances were announced everywhere but here - their 'official' forums. I can't even tell when Q&As will be, because I've never seen an attempt of announcing it before the questions are already answered and posted here. Most of the time I'm wondering where those questions even come from.

 

That's my take on the process so far.

 

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1 hour ago, Electric_Tiger said:

Half of the worlds population could play this game. You're right, that would make it better. 

However, that is not the point I am trying to make. If their sales increase, the level of hardcore should never decrease; yet some of the best ideas I have seen for this game have been born and ultimately ignored on these forums..

There is very little interaction from community managers and developers here. I understand that developers are busy, but isnt that why we have community managers? Right now all I see in interaction is the bare minimum, and since I've been here it seems like that has taken a toll on the quality of the game.

Right now it seems like a lot of streamers are playing this game like it's a disgusting Call of Duty mutation. This brings in players looking at it like it is full of fast pace twitch gameplay. When something doesn't work out in that sense, they run to reddit and cry about it.

 

Not just that, but iirc the last maintenances were announced everywhere but here - their 'official' forums. I can't even tell when Q&As will be, because I've never seen an attempt of announcing it before the questions are already answered and posted here. Most of the time I'm wondering where those questions even come from.

 

That's my take on the process so far.

 

I have to agree that I get more news and info from reddit than off this forum which is a bit bizarre. 

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2 hours ago, AlexL84 said:

I have to agree that I get more news and info from reddit than off this forum which is a bit bizarre. 

Show me if reddit have this. :)

 

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If this is like rust voip will there be something to stop from sniffing the traffic, getting ips and ddosing people offline? Let alone gamechat features that are not able to be disabled exposing our ips?

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I get the delays now. BSG actually wants players to stop playing for server stability, therefore trolling and poor communication skills are presented pre patch. It happens too often for this theory not to be true 

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You can blame them for a lot, but that even happens to the best. Progress in programming, especially when it comes to bug fixes is a very difficult thing to predict time wise. That is why most developers don´t even dare to give any dates anymore because people have a very short span of patience these days.

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On 9/15/2018 at 1:38 PM, Drunkin_ said:

Never ran into a situation where I thought someone was cheating

Same here... It's difficult and many people are better than me. Thus, many times it seems like it could be cheaters but the only time I ever thought I for sure might have been in a raid with a cheater I didn't even see them. But my friends who are much more seasoned than I am said it was a speed hacker. 

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On 9/17/2018 at 11:45 PM, Electric_Tiger said:

Here's a good question for the development team that will never be answered;

Is this game still going to be as hardcore as it was advertised to be? I'm tired of all these basic cutie streamers crying that the game is too difficult, and causing mayhem on your Reddit page (THAT ISN'T THIS FORUM -- THE ONE YOU SHOULD BE PAYING ATTENTION TO SEEING AS THE BETA FORUM IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE BY THOSE ABLE TO GET INTO THE BETA..). 

Why is this game becoming super casual? Why are you listening to people and kids, that I understood when I pre-ordered, that this game would not cater to?

Is there any hope left? Will this still be hardcore; or should I just give up and assume I've been ripped off by people falsely advertising a product I wanted so badly to enjoy?

I'm frustrated beyond all end. More so now that you decide to immortalize streamers that have been worsening the community overall by bringing in kids and young immature adults that demand you water down this hardcore experience; the sad part is that you've obliged and given in. I get that you want to make money, but this is beyond pathetic.

And how exactly is this game becoming too casual? You don’t really give any specific examples on how this game is becoming casual and look more pissed about how streamers play and complain about the game. 

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12 minutes ago, Iskatanoth said:

And how exactly is this game becoming too casual? You don’t really give any specific examples on how this game is becoming casual and look more pissed about how streamers play and complain about the game. 

You can read the rest or don't. That's up to you.

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On 9/18/2018 at 7:40 PM, Himmuguegeli said:

You can blame them for a lot, but that even happens to the best. Progress in programming, especially when it comes to bug fixes is a very difficult thing to predict time wise. That is why most developers don´t even dare to give any dates anymore because people have a very short span of patience these days.

And here I am almost 3 years later... :D

 

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On 9/18/2018 at 6:20 PM, ReSync013 said:

If this is like rust voip will there be something to stop from sniffing the traffic, getting ips and ddosing people offline? Let alone gamechat features that are not able to be disabled exposing our ips?

oh hell yeah :P though the need to offline someone is a little different in rust if you did it in tarkov you would end up with an immortal statue of the guy you ddos'd out of the match 

 

Not saying it could'nt be done just that its a little harder to make work than in rust where you could have people forced offline for a 6 hours with a botnet ddos and come back to a hole in the ground where your shitshack was. 

 

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