SCAV ON SCAV VIOLENCE: A fresh perspective

September 3, 2018

Ok so.

When i first started playing this game id barely watched a few videos, just the visual quality of the game attracted me to it and some of the gameplay but i didnt know really know alot of details about tarkov.

I mean i lost alot of gear looking for extracts let alone dying to people (probaly doing offline raids woulda helped me)

I could barely tell the difference between scavs and players.

But taking that factor into account, when i first started playing, even as a geared player facing another geared player, there would be wiggle moments where we would team up, imagine that in todays tarkov? not very likely right?
But apart from that geared players would wiggle hatchlings regularly.
Scavs would majority wiggle scavs.

The problem now is the influx of players, paired up with the fact that some people where like me at the start: they could barely tell the difference between player and scav, you would be shitting your pants every raid and everything was KOS til you had a feel for the game and the wiggle.

The problem is newbies and vets alike, though its experienced players with that brainless childish mindset that are the issue!

"oh some scav scav killed me, im so salty now...from now on, ITS KOS EVERYTHING wah wah wah wah"

Ummmm, how about ...grow up, your just fighting fire with fire, stop acting like a victim and a child, you know i wiggle everytime i see another scav regardless of the risk at hand, because if more people shared this mentallity the positive would spread and the negative would dry up.
BUT...its not, and it really goes to show the mentality of alot of players.

Its time to grow up kids, stop whining because some scav killed you on ya run, 2 wrongs dont make a right.
Even the other day we were fighting players , killed one and had the other trapped in the bus station - while doing so another scav walked up behiind and tapped us both.
Clap clap for the handicap, good job mate, about 3 seconds after that time the player inside who was armoured enough to finish you woulda realised what happened stepped out and blasted you back to shoreline.

Its completely senseless, imagine a bunch of scavs teaming up to drop geared players, it would be rewarding, but nah lets waste our run on our own childish self pitying.

Grow up and get with it.

September 3, 2018

I usually shoot other player Scavs on sight not because I'm salty but because It is almost always going to be the other player Scav will shoot first if you don't. As there is no karma system in the game yet Scav on Scav violence can't really be stopped in anyway.

Just the other day I wiggled to another player Scav in Interchange and when I walked by he tapped me in the back of the head. It is just the state of the game currently, and this issue will be addressed eventually don't worry.

September 3, 2018

If a scav wiggles, I just keep them at a distance. I've had plenty of players wiggle at me and then gun me down.

It's better to be safe than sorry and until we get some sort of karma system this is the inevitable result.

September 5, 2018

I just keep them at a distance.

September 7, 2018

I came for a fresh perspective, I got someone grandstanding about the fact people aren't playing just like he wants them to and therefore THEY need to grow up without realizing the laughable Irony of it. which has been done about a thousand times now.

Also yes, clearly everyone who doesn't play like you MUST be someone who fits your baseless E-Psychology description which is also just pathetic.

REPEAT AFTER ME

"Cooperate with strangers or get shot by your friend in the back - there are no rules."

Let me know when you get it so you can take your own advice and stop being such a crybaby.

September 7, 2018

On 9/3/2018 at 10:38 PM, CheekyScav said:

if more people shared this mentallity the positive would spread and the negative would dry up

so you want people to behave like in movie "Batman: Dark Knight"
where no one have pressed a detonator button ?
never, its a "hardcore" game, everyone for himself

or may be "tit for tat", strategy will be better ?

September 7, 2018

Wiggling isn't a force field. If you wiggle, and they wiggle, that doesn't mean you're safe. Never put your guard down in this game. There are POS people who will try and kill you anyways after agreeing (wiggling) not to shoot. It is what it is. If both sides don't wiggle, then there's no reason to assume you're dealing with a friendly, so my advice would be to shoot if they don't acknowledge your wiggle.

Keep your distance and keep moving so they can't get a clean shot on you. Stay behind cover if you can. Keep them in your crosshairs. Use hand signals to shoo them away. Use AI scavs for defense.

With that said, it would be nice if you could choose which language the Scavs speak so you could use voice commands to either team up with other players or to shoo them away. I personally don't think teaming with random scavs is a great idea. It's a much better idea to team up with someone who's looking for a group in the queue, or who's on discord.

Edited September 7, 2018 by upL8N8

September 8, 2018

I come out with 100k on scav runs, if i team up i come out with nothing worth while. I killed another player scav yesterday which had a graphics card and flash drive. Those items are now mine. If i want to play with people i get on discord and team up, way more effective than the wiggle. Wiggling at me while i'm playing solo will get you shot in the face. People who wiggle are usually on teams these days and they think your a team mate, when they find out your not on their team they blast you. There is no crying in Tarkov only shooting and looting!

September 18, 2018

Yeah I don't care either way. I respect the wiggle and will team up if you really want to but most times I will wiggle back and then go try and loot near an exit because I don't 100% trust you. Now, if there was some sort of wiggle-watching mechanic that leveled up your rep every time you stopped scav-on-scav shooting a wiggler and then got bonus exp and rep points for tagging and killing a PMC together...that might be cool...

September 18, 2018

i cannot agree on this "shoot at first sight" and "its me or him"m, especially as a scav (if only)
I mean the scav runs I do are merely for fun and to see "what I can come up with". that could be scav kills if it works out that I can kill the first ones without getting swarmed.

or just loot runs that are bonus. everything for me as a scav is just that, a bonus.

so when I ever realize other scav players (I am bad at it) I wiggle.

if I get shot at, so be it. I lose literally nothing except a few minutes

hell I even yell friendly, and all that jazz when I meet other PMC´s.

the way I see it that in maps like interchange, customs and such theres plenty to get for all of us. I am not really worth to kill, so why bother ? every VEPR we can loot pays more than my dogtag anyways.

I think its worth it to keep trying.

3 hours ago, middlefingerSKS said:

Yeah I don't care either way. I respect the wiggle and will team up if you really want to but most times I will wiggle back and then go try and loot near an exit because I don't 100% trust you. Now, if there was some sort of wiggle-watching mechanic that leveled up your rep every time you stopped scav-on-scav shooting a wiggler and then got bonus exp and rep points for tagging and killing a PMC together...that might be cool...

oh boy something like that sounds sweet AF. I hear Karma might be coming sometime ?