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1 минуту назад, LoBoak сказал:

AKMSU and AK 9 use a subsonic ammo

LOL

AKMSU? Really? :)

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Unwinder

Damn, me = blind.  Totally missed RPKS-74N from the list. It is caliber, 9mm for AK-9 and 5.45 for RPKS-74N. Damn.

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iyhan_spb
6 минут назад, Unwinder сказал:

Damn, me = blind.  Totally missed RPKS-74N from the list. It is caliber, 9mm for AK-9 and 5.45 for RPKS-74N. Damn.

Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When I'll be at home, I will post official message and send you keys. AT LAST!!!! :)

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Unwinder

Hehe, thanks :) But what kind of misconception was it related? 

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Forien
3 minutes ago, Unwinder said:

Hehe, thanks :) But what kind of misconception was it related? 

It was quite simple to be honest. Caliber. Every gun on the list has caliber of 7.62mm, AK-9 and RPKS-74N are the only ones not having that. You guys focused too much on what "2 guns had in common" instead of "which 2 guns don't fit" ;) 

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iyhan_spb
2 часа назад, Unwinder сказал:

It is caliber, 9mm for AK-9 and 5.45 for RPKS-74N.

Congratulations @Unwinder

All guns are in 7.62, while AK-9 and RPKS-74N are not!
Check your PM for the keys. It can be activated here. Two weeks trial starts since the activation! 

2 часа назад, Unwinder сказал:

Hehe, thanks :) But what kind of misconception was it related? 

People usually confuse cartridge and caliber. They hardly belive me, when I tell them, that TT-33, AKM and PKM are in the same caliber

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iyhan_spb

Hey, guys! The new task is here! Come on!!!!

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Pand1
On 10/28/2018 at 4:59 AM, iyhan_spb said:

NEW TASK TO GET 14 DAYS EFT TRIAL KEY:
Quote this task, odd one out and explain your choice:

AK-46, AK-47, PP "Bizon", OTs-14,  PP "Vityaz".

The first right answer shall get this key!

Good luck! 

Out of these, OTs-14 is the only one with a bullpup configuration.

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iyhan_spb
13 минуты назад, Pand1 сказал:

Out of these, OTs-14 is the only one with a bullpup configuration.

It is too easy even for one week key :) Try once more! The answer is on the scheme! 

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Pand1

PP "Bizon" is the only one not using a standard box magazine....or it is the only one that can be chambered for up to three different rounds.

Are multiple answers allowed in one post? 9_9

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crisisstorm
On 10/27/2018 at 4:59 PM, iyhan_spb said:

 

What does AK(N) mean on the scheme?
It means that there are actually two variants: AK and AKN. AKM(S)B stands for AKMB and AKMSB

And that's why I claim AK-46 and AK-47 are absolutely different prototypes:

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NEW TASK TO GET 7 DAYS EFT TRIAL KEY:

It is an easy task, so the prise is 7 days key, not 14 days.

 

NEW TASK TO GET 14 DAYS EFT TRIAL KEY:
Quote this task, odd one out and explain your choice:

AK-46, AK-47, PP "Bizon", OTs-14,  PP "Vityaz".

The first right answer shall get this key!

Good luck! 
 

 

 

 

The AK 46. Since it is a prototype that does not fit the tree according to the scheme and explanation (AK 47 is a "complitly new gun" ), all other weapons mentioned derive from the AK (N) standard  in some way.

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iyhan_spb
11 час назад, Pand1 сказал:

PP "Bizon" is the only one not using a standard box magazine....or it is the only one that can be chambered for up to three different rounds.

Are multiple answers allowed in one post? 9_9

Nope, but you was almost there. Keep trying.

5 часов назад, crisisstorm сказал:

 

The AK 46. Since it is a prototype that does not fit the tree according to the scheme and explanation (AK 47 is a "complitly new gun" ), all other weapons mentioned derive from the AK (N) standard  in some way.

There is logic in your answer, but Vityaz is also very different, for example. It has straight blowback method of operation

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Pand1
23 minutes ago, iyhan_spb said:

Nope, but you was almost there. Keep trying.

PP Vityaz is the only gun that is not chambered for russian cartridges. It's 9x19 only. While the Bizon has a 9x19 configuration too it comes in 9x18 and 7.62 as well.

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Snork_Svk
35 minutes ago, iyhan_spb said:

Nope, but you was almost there. Keep trying.

There is logic in your answer, but Vityaz is also very different, for example. It has straight blowback method of operation

Yes but blowback in list is both: PP "Bizon" and PP "Vityaz".

After while only one thing what i can figure except everithing mentioned before is that only PP "Vityaz" is in game yet... AK-47 type 1 ( first stamped ) AK-47 type 2 milled recievers isn't in game but AKM again stamped.

 

And maybe this one: Only AK-46 have charging handle on left side. And is only in whole AK tree which have charging handle not on bolt assembly, but separated.

 

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Pand1
4 minutes ago, iyhan_spb said:

Damn... I thought it is obvious....And that here can be only one exact answer. But you all gave me so many different but logical answers... I do not even know what to do :) 

Ask Nikita for extra keys :D

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7 минут назад, Snork_Svk сказал:

Only AK-46 have charging handle on left side. And is only in whole AK tree which have charging handle not on bolt assembly, but separated.

 

6 часов назад, crisisstorm сказал:

The AK 46. Since it is a prototype that does not fit the tree according to the scheme and explanation

 

12 часа назад, Pand1 сказал:

OTs-14 is the only one with a bullpup configuration.

Damn... I thought it is obvious....And that here can be only one exact answer. But you all gave me so many different but logical answers... I do not even know what to do  :)

I guess it will be fair to give a key for everyone, so 
 

Congratulations @Snork_Svk @crisisstorm @Pand1

My variant was that all guns have variants for different ammo, while Vityaz is only in 9x19 version 


Check your PM for the keys. It can be activated here. Seven days trial starts since the activation! 

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Pand1
3 minutes ago, iyhan_spb said:

 

 

Damn... I thought it is obvious....And that here can be only one exact answer. But you all gave me so many different but logical answers... I do not even know what to do  :)

I guess it will be fair to give a key for everyone, so 
 

Congratulations @Snork_Svk @crisisstorm @Pand1

My variant was that all guns have variants for different ammo, while Vityaz is only in 9x19 version 


Check your PM for the keys. It can be activated here. Seven days trial starts since the activation! 

Much appreciated.^_^

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Unwinder

Tiss. The rest are PP (SMG) and use pistol ammo.

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iyhan_spb
11 час назад, Unwinder сказал:

Tiss. The rest are PP (SMG) and use pistol ammo.

You already won two(!!!) keys! :) 

 

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Unwinder

I don't need extra keys, I've already purchased 4 copies of the game for me and my best friends ;) But I do need interesting AK related puzzles, so keep generating them ;)

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iyhan_spb
1 час назад, Unwinder сказал:

I don't need extra keys, I've already purchased 4 copies of the game for me and my best friends ;) But I do need interesting AK related puzzles, so keep generating them ;)

To be honest, I'm already out of ideas.... 

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LoBoak

I need a key for my brother , need more task!!

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Schaefer

Perhaps make another Thread with another Weaponfamily ??

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Forien
4 hours ago, Schaefer said:

Perhaps make another Thread with another Weaponfamily ??

AFAIK the entire "AR" family tree would consist of only 10 weapons. Unless you want all possible variants (like M4, M4A1, M4A2, M4A3, M4A4, Mk 18 CQBR etc are all basically M4, just modded differently), then thousands (due to weapons being highly moddable and sold in many modded variants).

Anyway, I got it drawn out on the paper, but I have 0 graphical skills :D 

And yes, it would be way more than 10 weapons if you count all "smg that looks like M4 and is somewhat similar" or "that other company that made their weapons to look like M4"...

 

And as for other "weapon families", I don't know if there is any that could any close in size to M4/AK families. 

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